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Chit Chat / Article about Chinese Motorcycles on KneeSlider.com
« on: October 06, 2007, 09:43:29 PM »
This is an interesting commentary on chinese motorcycles...
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/03/26/chinese-motorcycles-growing-fast/

This is one thing I did not really think about...

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One issue I haven’t heard addressed is product liability. U.S. manufacturers and the established majors from Japan and Europe have to contend with laws that hold them liable for defects in their products. Has anyone had to deal with this issue on a Chinese motorcycle? The local dealer certainly can’t accept the liability and what are your chances with a company from China responding to your claims or concerns, especially if it’s one of the smaller ones? With the rapidly increasing Chinese presence, someone ought to think about this because if you hold everyone else liable, you can’t give them a pass. I think it may be a while before the laws catch up to the reality of the market and in the meantime, be very careful with your purchase.

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Chit Chat / T Motorsports eBay Store
« on: October 06, 2007, 09:22:17 PM »
Has anyone purchased a TMS 200 from this ebay seller?

T Motorsports

The price is definitely great.  Would be nice if it said Lifan instead of TMS but that might be why it is so inexpensive.  About $1300 shipped.

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Chit Chat / Lifan and Lifan Rebranded Motorcycles
« on: October 06, 2007, 09:07:05 PM »
VRob has an interesting post on BeginnerBikers.org about the LF200 and Lifan.


It is cool see dealers giving helpful information.


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The American Distributor, AmericanLifan has exclusive rights to distribute the Lifan Brand Name in the U.S. No other company in the U.S. has rights to import the Lifan Brand name direct from the manufacturer; however, many importers have gotten around this by rebranding the Lifan product as another name. Same product, just different name.
I kinda figured this was the case but did not know the specifics.  Interesting.

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When compared to the other Chinese motorcycles, Lifan stands out from the crowd in performance and value. While Lifan won't get an award for quality, you should be able to find parts and support for most of the issues you may come across with this bike. We sell this bike in our store left and right for $2000. For the $1000 price tag that many of the internet dealers are selling this bike for, the LF200 is a steal, not to mention, below dealer cost.

So $1000 is below dealer cost.  I wonder what dealer cost is.  I also wonder why these ebay sellers would sell at a loss.  They probably wouldn't so they must buy up a huge number of motorcycles and get a discount.


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Chit Chat / Lifan Motorcycle Dealers
« on: October 06, 2007, 09:02:05 PM »
I would like to get a thread going about motorcycle dealers Lifan owners have dealt with.

These guys have put some helpful posts out on various forums...
www.motorcycles.pro

Nice URL too :D


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Chit Chat / 200cc Engine Thread
« on: September 18, 2007, 02:08:46 PM »
Found a great thread on thumpertalk.  I would like to pull out all the most useful information and consoldate it here...

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331196

There are 2 engine models:
  • 163FML uses a 63.5mm-bore X 62.2mm-stroke.
  • 169FML uses a 69mm-bore X 53mm-stroke.


Companies that rebadge Lifan and Zongshen bikes...
KPX, Jetmoto, Yamoto, Roketa

LF200GY-5 or LF200GY-2 are Model 163FML and are OHC.  Any true Lifan bike will have a VIN # starting with LF.

Some Lifan engines are pushrod and some are OHC.






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LF200GY / LF200 Dealer Prep Checklist
« on: September 11, 2007, 07:36:44 PM »
Found a great site with lots of info on Lifan Motorcycles.  There is a great checklist to go through when preparing your motorcycle once recieved out of the crate...

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6

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LF200 / Lifan LF200-B Picture
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:19:06 PM »
I found an picture (attached below) of an interesting Lifan on lifan.com

I have not seen this one on ebay yet.  Looks prototype-ish.  No stickers.

Lifan LF200-B

SPECIFICATION
Motorcycle model: LF200-B
Dimension ((L×B×H mm): 2250*815*1150

Wheel base (mm):1420

Min.Ground Clearance (mm): 185

Dry Weight: 150kg

Height Of Seat (mm): 800

Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 14

Engine Type: single-cylinder, air-cooled,four-stroke
Engine model: 163FML-2M

Bore×Stroke: 63.5mm*62.2mm

Displacement: 197ml

Maximum Power 12kw/8000r/min

Maximum Torque: 14.5N.m/6000r/min

Clutch: Wet multi-plate

Lubrication: Pressure/splash

Start: Electric start

Ignition: CDI

Transmission: 5 gear

Max. Speed (km/h): 100km/h
Economical Fuel Consumption (l/100km): ?2.3L/100km

Front Type Size and Air Pressure: 110/70-17-54H/225KPa

Rear Type Size and Air Pressure: 140/70-17-66H/225KPa

Climbing Ability (°): ?20°

Exhaust Index: CO?3.8%?HC?800ppm

Start Performance: ?15s

Braking system (front/rear): double-disk/single-disk

Brake Performance: ?7m/30km/h


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LF200 / LF200 Video
« on: September 06, 2007, 08:46:58 PM »
Here is a cool video, first person on an LF200...


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LF200 / LF200 Poll
« on: September 06, 2007, 08:41:10 PM »
Here is an interesting pole on yahoo.  The best answer has some interesting points.  Of course, there is no reference for the % of bikes mentioned to have issues.  Also, no mention of what kind of issues...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070424214736AAy3F8e&show=7

He is right about buying from a good dealer.  You need to have someone stand behind the product if it fails.


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Chit Chat / American Lifan | Texas Based Importer
« on: September 04, 2007, 01:10:49 PM »
Here is an interesting post on Thumpertalk...
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5228002#post5228002

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American Lifan is a Texas based importer who is trying to get exclusive rights to the US market. The problem is that the Lifan company in China will sell the bikes to anyone with the cash to buy a container full and that undercuts American Lifan's efforts to build a dealer network. Either way, a Lifan is a Lifan, made in the same plant, just imported through different channels.

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Chit Chat / Lifan Makes frames for Harley Davidson
« on: September 04, 2007, 01:05:19 PM »
Not sure if this is true or not but I would like to research and verify this statement...

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and lifan is the largest engine producer in china (and they also make the frames for harley davidson)

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5206375#post5206375

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Chit Chat / Lifan On Ebay | No Brand Name Mention
« on: September 04, 2007, 11:01:11 AM »
Why do you think no one uses the Lifan name in the title of the listing when selling bikes on ebay?  Is it because they don't have any name recognision?  Or are they trying to prevent people from finding useful information about the bike and buying it elsewhere?

Here is an example...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-200CC-SUPER-STREET-BIKE-NO-RESERVE-440-245-4332_W0QQitemZ120156581815QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Pictures and Videos / Post Your Lifan Pictures Here!!
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:50:16 PM »
Let's see your ride! 

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Chit Chat / Lifan City X 125
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:49:07 PM »
I don't think this one is availiable in the US.  If anyone wants a section for this bike let me know...


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LF200GY / Great LF200 Owner thread
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:39:19 PM »
Here is a great cronological thread of pullin-gs experience owning a LF200 Dual sport.  For those of you who like to read the last page of a book first...

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2-year update.
I bought the bike over 2 years ago on a whim.
No regrets so far. Bike currently has over 4000(!!) miles.
Miles are about 80-85% street, the rest off-road. No hard riding. I dont red-line it, I dont clutchless-shift (except the time I broke my clutch cable) I dont jump it, I dont do wheelies (most of the time). I ride slower off road especially when dealing with rocks and ruts. I dont ride it fast (rarely over 55...only maxed it out once at 65)...usually between 35 and 45.
I've found it to be fun, reliable transportation and I can jump on it anytime and take off with no worries about not making it back home.
I'll post a few curent pictures later on.
So far myout-of-pocket expenses for the bike are about $50. The wear-marks on the rear tire are all but gone, so I'll be getting tires next month. My rear shock has all but lost it's dampening ability. I'll probably leave it though.
I am putting about 80-100 stop/go miles a week with my new commute. These are hard miles for a close-ratio trans dirt bike with all the clutching and go/stop throttle.

Here is a list of items I have had to replace because of breakage.
20-amp fuse
Front head light
Rear tail light
Front and rear tube
Clutch cable (Note: be sure you oil your cables)
Two screws came loose. Replaced them.


Here is a list of items I have had to repair (no $$$, just work)
Cross-threaded rear axle needed to be re-died. Axle nut re-tapped.
I damaged my swing-arm....rear bushing seat started to split.
Carb was running lean...had to adjust throttle-slider needle.
Broke one of the mounts on my headlight plastics...fiberglass cloth and epoxy fixed it.
Had to re-paint left-side plastics in 3 spots....bike-road-rash
Blinker came un-plugged from wireing harness
Headlight on/off switch came apart....disected it, put new spring in it.
Rear suspension was squeeking...tightened up shock-mount bolts.
Choke cable would not work....re-routed cable and oiled it.

Cheers
Pullin'

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