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Engine Kits / Re: 250cc Lifan
« on: September 06, 2008, 10:13:44 AM »
Hey are the 250 lifan engines any good. Cuz i was thinkin about getting 1 soon
any feedback would be great!!!
HI FOX DUDE 77.

Tell your friend (cuzi) to stop thinkin and go get im one. I hear tell dem thare 250's are slicker than a watermellin seed! Ya all git a cruzy too, an go a runnin whit dem big dawgs!

leev dem dam 200 sportys too da yung pups.

Gotta run, da grits r boilin over. ;D

Seriously, I hear they are excellent motors, and others should agree.

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LF200 / Re: idling problems on lf 200
« on: July 18, 2008, 08:20:45 PM »
my air bleed screw seems to do nothing to help the bike idle and the bike also has a miss and i cant get it out adjusting the air bleed screw and idle screw the spark plug seems to be gapped right it was a little black but not bad where should i go from here

Are your problems before, during, or after warm up?

Please describe as best as you can, what is the problem with the idle?

The air bleed screw adjustment probably won"t get the miss firing out.

Are the miss fires at idle or while your riding at higher RPM?

Sounds like your plug is "loading up" with carbon if its center electrode and ceramic insulator  is black.
This is typically the cause of miss fires.

I found that quite a few of these motors that wouldn't stay running long enough to warm up needed the choke cable adjusted at the carb. This was because the choke butterfly was not closing enough.

A restricted air flow or maladjusted carburator (to rich) could the cause of the problem.

Have you installed a dry high flow air filter? Do you have the factory oiled sponge filter? An over oiled sponge filter could be part of the problem.

Buyingchina


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LF200 / Re: idling problems on lf 200
« on: July 16, 2008, 05:35:40 AM »
i have a brand new lf200 with about 120 miles on it i cant keep the bike running at idle when its cold and the choke seems to do nothing to help it idle i end up killing the battery before i can keep it running and i already set the idle at 1500rpms when it was warm like the book said just another note this thing is the hardest kick starting bike ive ever seen i can jump on it and it still wont start please help me

HI. If the choke seems to do nothing than it needs to be adjusted at the clamp on the carb. Most likely it's not closing enough to create sufficient  vacuum for an adequate fuel flow at starting.

If the motors starts and then stalls out after a few seconds than it could also need the the idle (slow circuit) richened by turning in  the air bleed screw at the front of the carb.

Try to raise the idle speed using the chrome screw on the side of the carb when adjusting the brass air bleed screw. when the weather was cold to aide in starting I had my idle speed at 1600 to 1700 RPM according to the factory installed tachometer.

Always write down any adjustments you make (air screw in 1 turn, for example) so you can maintain a point of reference and return.

"Patience is the name of the road that leads to success" - Buyingchina

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LF200 / Re: Oil scape in my new LF 200 III
« on: July 13, 2008, 07:47:39 PM »
Hi everybody. I buy a new Lifan LF 200 III and has a small escape of oil under the engine to the left side. Someone can indicate me what can be? In the review of maintenance of 500 Km they did not solve it. This escape only happens when the engine is warm and alone a few drops fall down. When engine is cooled this escape stop. (sorry the bad english, i talk spanish).
Thaks for help.

Hello.

 #1 The oil drip may be from chain oil that comes off on the inside of the chain case (front sprocket guard), and when the motor gets hot it will drip down on the left side

#2 the shaft seal on the front sprocket shaft behind the guard and sprocket needs replacement due to wear, damage, or improper installation. I have seen this type of seal canted during installation and left that way causing them to leak.

Clean under the sprocket cover to find the source of the leak. If you need to replace the shaft seal the standard industry number is  68-20-34 metric shaft seal. I would recommend a Viton seal for durability and long life. These standard metric seals are available from most bearing suppliers in  major cities around the world.

I hope this is helpfull, Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: starting a LF200/TMS 200 and that clattering?
« on: June 03, 2008, 08:18:58 AM »
What is that clattering noise when starting up, sometimes loud and sometimes not at all? Is that a problem? Can it be quieted down?

The noises you are hearing are normal. there is quite a bit of clearance in the starter gear cluster and other connecting parts, and what your hearing is the slap and backlash of the gears, connecting rod, piston, and other internal parts. I understand your concerns, these sounds (clunks) can be very loud at times but rest assured that these  are present in this type of motor.

I have taken apart  my Lifan 200 motor (loud clunker) on two occasions and all is well.

Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: Has anyone done bussiness with this Lifan dealer?
« on: April 15, 2008, 07:32:09 PM »
The adds do seem a bit weird. However, this seller is a bit expensive. I would check if he/she is a middle person and where the bike will be coming from if you order from them.
They may be drop-shipping. If they are not and have their own warehouse then it might be a good this as they are in your home state.

I went on a road trip today to check out this seller (N.E.O. Motorsports). The address took me to a self storage place with a few clusters of small office type store fronts about 15 by 20 feet in size. Behind their entrance door is a landing and several steps down and to the left to the small room which is below ground level. They are mostly vacant but I found one with a Lifan sticker on the door that was also vacant. There are also quite a few rows of buildings with largest storage rooms about the size of a small single car garages with an overhead door. I asked any one I could find if they new what happened to the occupant of that office, and no one seemed to remember ever seeing any one there. One person that I spoke with directed me to the rental office for additional information. The person there was a little sheepish about giving out information. But they told me it was rented for 6 monthes and that included one small storage area. I asked if they had ever seen any motor bikes or atv's being delivered or picked up, and the answer was that as far as the knew the storage area was never used.

Heres a quote from their home page, " N.E.O. Motorsports is the leading distributor of American Lifan pocket bikes, scooters, dirt bikes, ATV's, and motorcycles."

This sounds like they are claiming to be a distibutor for a distributor?  This is truly Ridiculous!

American Lifan is the only authorized distributor of lifan products in the U.S. These products are sold  by the authorized dealers in their network.

I spoke with American Lifan in Texas about this seller. They told me that this seller is not one of their authorized dealers.

 I remember them (N.E.O.) selling a green Gallata branded GRX200 sport bike about 2 months ago on E-Bay and it seemed  strange that they were claiming association with American Lifan. The picures they used were the very same that I found, and are still in use today on the Lifan- motorcycle-wholesale dot com. website.  I also remember this issue being ignored when I posted the information on another forum. It  looks like this may have been some sort of drop shipping scheme that went wrong. Lets hope that they didn't take anyone to the cleaners!

Heres a few shots of my "Road Trip" and my favorite car. No, its not a Lifan!-Buyingchina





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LF200 / Re: 2008 Lifan GRX 250cc
« on: April 14, 2008, 02:15:06 PM »
With every on-line seller there are happy stories and sad stories. This is the nature of buying on line.

I think that buying from an established seller with a retail store is the best bet since a  2 to 3 hundred dollar savings won't matter when you get stuck by a seller that won't honor their warranty. You wouldn't pay up front and pick up a damaged bike would you? Well online sellers can show a web page full of parts, and that doesn't mean that they have them in stock when needed, or at all for that matter.
Many of these sellers don't have possession of the products they sell and will never admit it. I have seen sellers take a customers money for a bike and when its received they find out it was bought from another seller or maybe an importer warehouse. All of these guys have some really good and believable excuses when you catch on and start asking questions like why is my bike a different brand then what I ordered? Why are my parts the wrong brand or color when you continually display the correct parts as being available?
Online sellers have an interesting warranty that read carefully actually tell whats NOT covered. And after you read it you will realize that almost nothing is covered by their warranty!
The idea is to make you think you have a good warranty and the clever way its presented instills consumer confidence. A classic example is the 3YEAR WARRANTY! This is absolutely the most  ridiculous claim to date! Just ask a real biker, or bike shop.
 Before buying a bike try to order 3-4 silly little inexpensive parts (a bulb, a foot peg pad, a dip stick gasket, and a spring for the foot brake) to see how good their service really is, make sure they are wear parts that are specific to the bike you are thinking of ordering, this way they can be used or sold later.

Edit; My contact at Rocketa that I buy parts through said that "Kung Foo" sales have been dead flat due to price and their "Fugly look". It was never told that its been discontinued by either the manufacturer or Rocketa. Usually Rocketa  runs a closeout (discontinued) sale to dealers. This usually generates sales to help liquidate stock on models they want to clear out. As far as I know Rocketa doesn't sell to the public.
Please remember, the description "Fugly" was not mine. I think its kinda nice, but a slightly unusual looking bike.

 "You get what you pay for, and it's usually less than expected" -Buyingchina





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Chit Chat / Re: 125 J
« on: April 13, 2008, 08:38:19 AM »
Well, the bike is only 4 months old and I was hoping it was more likely to be a slack chain than anything else...

I didnt realise Lifan had such a following in the US!!!

Its picking up here in the UK too...

Its possible that to much chain slack could be adding to your problem. The side to side "shift" could be accentuated by the chain  whipping from slack to tight during  gear shifts. The wheel wobble  causes me to wonder if its a perception or actual movement of the wheel. You should check this as mentioned in the previous post.

Chain slack is  easy enough to check. Heres a link that shows the SIMPLE method I use on my LF200III. You should check your manual for the factory recommended chain slack specification that you will find to be very close if not identical.

Heres the link to my post on Lifancycle dot com about "Chain Adjustment and Lubrication:

 http://lifancycle.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36

Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: 125 J
« on: April 12, 2008, 08:06:53 PM »
Hi guys, recently bought a 125 J from my uncle who has had it from new since December, he used it to learn on...

When I rode the machine yestederday for the first time, it feels as though the rear end shifts, wobbles every time you open throttle slightly or change gear..?/

Any idea's?

David in the UK

HI guy. I would get the back end  up off the ground and check for a loose wheel bearing or loose swing arm bearing. Its most likely that one or the other is the culprit, if not both.

When you say "shifts" I assume you mean side to side?

Edit: Another possibility is that the rubber cushions between the  sprocket carrier and the wheel hub may be worn out.

Check it out and let us know what you find.

Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: Where can I find parts for 250
« on: April 06, 2008, 04:58:49 PM »
I think I need to replace the coils on my wife's lf250 cruiser. I have fire going into coils but nothing going out to plugs. Been searching net to no avail. Where can I buy parts. (electrical parts) Bike also will not turn over from starter buton, but will from solinoid. Does coil have anything to do with this? :'( :( >:(

 Hi guy. We will try to help you with the diagnostics and parts sourcing. I don't personally have the LF250 cruiser to check the line voltage while cranking thats going into the coil. This is a good place to start the hunt.
Could you post that voltage information?

If the starter button doest work than I would check the main circuit fuse first. This is the only red (+ Positive) wire that comes off the battery (its fused) besides the thick red wire going to the solenoid. Then I would check to see how much if any voltage is going into (not through) the solenoid when you press the start button.

With the key on and the Engine stop button in the (RUN position), do you have power to all lights and instrumentation?
And If not, then its probably the fuse mentioned earlier that is easy enough to find,check and replace.

No, on the coil working since the starter system doesn't depend on its existence. power does go through the engine stop button (RUN position) and the starter button (PRESSED position) to operate and close the solenoid to power the starter directly from the battery.

The engine stop button (OFF position) cuts power to the ignition system to shut down the motor, and it also prevents  the starter button from sending power to the solenoid to turn the starter over.

Take your time and post you findings. Below is a good start to locating parts.

lifan link:  http://www.americanlifan.com/lifan3/

Parts link:  http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.asp?dept_id=15-009

Link to parts, sevice, and owners manuals: http://deltaclub.host11472.com/index.php?&MMN_position=1:1

LF 250 is said to be a clone of a Yamaha 250 Virago this is just one source for a manual:  http: http://www.garagecompany.com/byawman.html

Thanks. Buyingchina


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Chit Chat / Re: battery?
« on: April 06, 2008, 12:46:48 PM »
Hi.I just back from 6 hours of some intense driving which has left me pretty well whipped, so I'll be brief.

The problem could have a lot of answers and is very difficult to address. Think of it this way, you call your doctor because you have abdominal pain, and want to know what you should do to fix the problem.
Do you see what I mean? But I'll try to help, please bear in mind that I have limited knowledge in this area of diagnostics.

The most likely cause of your problem is procedural.

Lets assume you just got back from a ride or ran your motor.

Step 1) Engine run switch (red) is snapped to OFF.

Step 2) Ignition switch (key) must be turned to OFF.

Failure to follow these 2 steps will allow the battery to drain. This type of drain is a well known problem with Jet ski CDI ignitions that circulate power (using their "brain") to maintain a charged capacitor. And if the green neutral light is on it will also drain you battery.

The only indication of the ignition switch (key) being left on accidentally is the neutral (green) light. This light is very dim and seeing it in daylight can be a bit of a problem. This problem is compounded by the fact that it's very common for many to leave the bike in neutral, this is most likely due it being the only gear position that will allow the starter to engage.

This of course leads me to mention another potential procedural problem, of not locking the bike's ability to roll while it's parked. Leaving it in first gear is a necessary step since there is no PARK option, or brake LOCK on either the foot or hand brake. Remember that the first gear indicator is a bit more visible than the green neutral light.

I do not mean this post to be a "lecture," it's purpose is to help with understanding a possible cause of your problem, and to help you to avoid another potential one.

 Thanks. Buyingchina

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LF200 / Re: 2008 Lifan GRX 250cc
« on: April 05, 2008, 04:33:12 PM »
In RE:
 - the guy i am planning on buying from  (motorcycles-wholesale.com)

I bought two bikes from  Lifan- motorcycles-wholesale.com

and it appears that he just takes the orders for Rabbit Scooters
they are shipped from rabbit and all parts, etc have to go through Rabbit
(which takes forever) I am not impressed as yet with the follow through but if I Had know this at the start
I would have bought directly from rabbit at least they give you a phone number
Lifan wholesales has ignored my repeated request for one leaving me at the mercy of email
I sincerely hope he gets on the ball soon and gives the service that he advertises
as I am very loyal to merchants that do what they promise to do

motorcycles-wholesale.com : 12260 E. Washington Blvd unit A Whittier, CA. 90606

Lifan- motorcycles-wholesale.com :12260 E. Washington Blvd unit A Whittier, CA. 90606

Rabbitscooters.com : there (posted) old address (I have paperwork) was Washington Blvd unit A Whittier, CA. 90606

WWW.Pocket-bikes-wholesale.com: 12260 E. Washington Blvd unit A Whittier, CA. 90606

This is just a tiny bit of the really interesting stuff that can be found on the WWW! Kind of reminds me of the classic movie "The Wizard of OZ",  or should I say The Wizard of Whittier ?  Who's really behind the curtain?

Buyingchina



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LF200 / Re: 2008 Lifan GRX 250cc
« on: April 04, 2008, 04:14:36 PM »
I'm not even sure if the GRX is part of the model name.  I am talking about the 250cc lifan sport bike that looks like a bmw.  I have also heard it called the kung fu on the rabbit motor scooters site.

basically i want to know...   if speed and performance are your thing, is it worth it to spend the nearly 1000 more to get an extra 50cc (and and extra cyclinder)?


what are the pros and cons of the lifan grx 200cc vs the 250cc?

also have some questions about the 200cc  - the guy i am planning on buying from  motorcycles-wholesale.com) says that the bike is a OHV (push-rod) i have read that there are OHC versions, he says that they do not make them that way anymore, is that true?

Does anyone know anything good or bad about Motorcycles Wholesale or Gordon Whittet the owner?

can you pull a wheelie on either the 200cc or the 250cc?

I am a first time bike buyer and on or the other of these seems like my best bet. 

if anyone has any suggestions on places to gather some unbiased info on either of these cycles i would appreciate it, thanks for your time.


If speed and performance are your thing the difference between a China 200cc vs 250cc is not note worthy.

Heres a link to info about the dealer you mentioned:  http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/293/ripoff0293236.htm

Unbiased info: spend some time doing research on any bike or dealer you choose. There might be a little bit of bias out there, I think. Your best bet is the old saying "cash and carry" , you see it, you like it. you buy it. Any cost saving idea's can go belly up, I know this first hand.

Hi. I don't know of any one that ever bought that (kung- fu)  bike, but I think its been on a dead list of unsold bikes at Rocketa for quite a while. Could be a bike thats drop shipped by them for any one lucky enough to snag a buyer! If you can find out the model year that should tell you the story.

Rockete link:  http://www.roketa.com/product/2628/0/24973.shtml


Edit: I just took a look and the pictures look like a copy/ paste job. That's a good way to do it if you don't have possession of the bike. The question would be, who actually owns the bike? And who has parts? Wheelies? I did those on a 10 speed bike before I ever had a motorcycle, but that's a distant memory of my younger past. Maybe some one will come forward with that info using a 200cc sport bike, like the LF 200-iii. Any volunteers?


Thanks. Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: No brake lights
« on: March 31, 2008, 10:46:43 AM »
The  adjustment I'm referring to is for the switch at the rear brake pedal. You can adjust the switch  position up or down using the 2 plastic hex nuts on opposite sides of its mounting bracket. If the large red brake light in the rear is working, and the switch is properly adjusted , this light should come on with a little less than 1/2 inch of  pedal movement downward from its resting position.

If the side yellow markers do not flash a few times when the brake is first applied its most likely to be a bad connection at the plug on the flasher/ beeper unit. You can unplug it and look inside for a misaligned prong. I put dielectric grease in these and all the other connectors to maintain there conductive integrity.

Are both the front and back side markers affected?

Let us know if this solves the problem, thanks. Buyingchina

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Chit Chat / Re: No brake lights
« on: March 30, 2008, 08:12:30 PM »
Again a small problem when I hit my brakes the light does not come on usually they blink during your braking period... I just installed a new battery now the brake lights arent working properly but the bike is still runnin good
HI. Did you try to adjust the round black switch thats controlled by the pedal?

Does the light work if you use the handle bar brake?

Do a few tests and post your findings.

Buyingchina

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